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Company:

QS Supplies

Type:

Bathroom / Kitchen suppliers

Country:

United Kingdom

City:

Leicester

Postcode:

LE5 0DG

Address:

72 Forest Road


Claim title:

QS Supplies - Terrible service and no refund in sight

Claim value:

156.48

Incident Date:

ongoing since feb 14 2009

Mature Content:

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Please read the update at the bottom...

**STAY AWAY FROM QS SUPPLIES. I ORDERED IN FEB AND I'M STILL WAITING**

On 14 Feb 2009 I ordered a full bathroom suite, radiator and taps. I dealt with MO who seemed very pleasant and assured me that it would arrive on time 2 weeks later.

As both my partner and myself work full time and only receive standard issue holiday entitlement I needed the delivery to arrive on time. Mo called at 8:45am telling me to go to work as the bath had been damaged in transit and there would be no delivery that day. Fair enough. As they had no exact replacement for the bath, Mo agreed to send me the next one up which made up for the pointless day off work, although this cost me a days wages for the builders as they couldn't start work but billed me anyway.

They arranged for the next week and Mo even called to make sure it was 2 holes I wanted drilled in the bath. My partner drove home (from central London) at lunchtime to accept the delivery (which the delivery man very kindly helped carry into the house) to find that the taps and the bath waste were missing. The contractors started work that day. I called Mo and he said that they could have the correct taps and bath waste delivered the next day and left in a concealed location at our property.

The next day came and no taps..or bath waste. I called Mo, again, to find out why. He said that it was "against company policy to leave packages unattended" so we set yet another date to be delivered, this time to my work as they would be light enough for me to carry home. I specified the precise location of my office which all the delivery driver had to do to find was ask the receptionist for the 5th floor and my name.

It didn't arrive. They delivered it to our despatch area of the building which means that it would be near impossible to find amongst the the hundreds of other deliveries. After asking for a few favours we found it but lo and behold the bath waste was missing. Can these people do anything right? (I was to find out that the answer is No) Back on the phone to Mo who got the bath waste sent out a couple of days later.

What was a simple delivery turned out to be a bit of a mess....

1. Ordered and paid for everything in full on the 14 Feb
2. Delivery scheduled on the 27 Feb
3. Order began to arrive 2 March
4. Order completed 5 March
5. Total calls to and from QS Supplies = 15

It was a waste of my time, not to mention my phone bill.

When the time came to fit the bath my builder told me that it was the wrong taps that had been delivered. I required wall mounted taps because that bath had a roll top and couldn't accommodate any type of taps. Remember Mo kindly called to confirm that I wanted 2 holes in the bath? So, I got a bath with no holes and the wrong taps...back on the phone. Mo told me that the builders can just drill holes in the bath. No Mo, not in a roll top bath you won't. Which is what my builder said so the only thing was to send the bath back. I looked on their site to locate a suitable replacement within budget but there were none.

Apparently to collect the bath itself from us was going to cost me the price of the bath so I wouldn't receive any refund. So I kept the bath, changed the design of the bathroom (thanks to the ingenious builder) and decided to order new taps and send back the other taps that wouldn't fit. I called Mo and asked him if they could refund the taps because I needed a set sent out on next day delivery.

Called Mo at 1030am - taps we need are too expensive and he wasn't going to budge on a deal for anything. Ok fine, I'll just have a refund. Ok but they charge for a refund...25% penalty charge and 10gbp collection charge but he would call the supplier and see if they could get a better price.
This is ending up costing me a fortune in lost builders wages! Mo never called back so I had to pay another days wages to the builder. I decided to just buy taps from another company who could supply them the next day and I would deal with the refund at a later date.
The taps from the other company arrived and I called Mo to see what was happening with the refund. He was completely oblivious to what was happening even though it was only the day before we spoke, he didn't even remember me? How very odd.
After looking back his notes he said "Well Miss *** I've got good news and bad news which would you like first?" (WTF? was I in some sort of Some Mothers Do Have 'Em show?) the bad news turned out to be that there was going to be a charge and the good news was that they lowered the penalty charge from 25% to 12% and a 10gbp carriage charge. I just agreed because the taps were 138gbp.

Ok then, collection of the taps on Thursday so I took the day off. No one came (are you surprised?) I chased them and Mo gave me the suppliers number (which is a no-no in any business) so I called Sagittarius and spoke to Claire who told me that the driver turned up at my work when I specifically told them I had taken a day off and to collect the taps from my house. To top that off the driver, apparently, gave the poor receptionist the height of abuse. By the by I asked Claire how much they charge for collection...."10% and 6gbp carriage" "Oh really" I said, "Seems like Mo was trying to rip me off" (I know that this is just business, but at least remember when you've lied and not to give out your supplier's number) Claire kindly gave me free collection and waivered the charge.

Again I took and day off...in vain. They never turned up and I was in the flat all day with the builder. I called them and they were adamant that they did come, no one answered the door so they left a calling card. NO CALLING CARD! I argued back and forth with Mo about this (yes you read correctly, he argued) then ended up calling me a liar...A LIAR! then he said "Miss *** I'm sick and tired of dealing with you." so I asked to speak to a manager, he said that would be fine as he wasn't interested in dealing with me (*remember to look for customer service best practice reports)

The manager, Zam would be back at 6 and they were closing at 7. I called at 6, Zam was with a customer "Ok ill call back later" and can you also give him my number and have him call me at any time.

My partner called on Saturday and James said that there is no way anyone would have given me Zam's name. "Thats strange" he said "because I didn't pull that name out of my ass, Mo gave me the name and said I could talk to him" James told my partner that there is no way I could talk to this Zam, no way. Period.

Then I found that they didn't deliver the radiator valves. They weren't in the box with the radiator which Mo said they would be. So they are now going to collect the taps and deliver the valves, which apparently incurs a "Swap charge" of 19.65gbp. Bargain.

I specified that we needed angled valves, I made this point 3 times because I was sure he would fluff it up. On the morning of the delivery Mo called and left a voicemail saying "You never specified which kind of valves you wanted so we just delivered angled ones" This was very lucky, it was 50/50 which way they could mess it up but they messed it up the correct way (if that is possible?)
The taps were collected and the new valves were fitted making for a happy builder.

A refund for the taps will be in your account within 5 days. That was on the 24 March 2009 I am still waiting for my money. I am in the process of making an official complaint through:

The Office of Fair Trading
Citizens Advice Bureaux
Watchdog


**UPDATE

I called QS Supplies on the 24 April and the guy (wasn't James or Mo) said that he has send our refund across to the accounts department who will refund us the 136gbp straight away. Come on, of course I know it's a load of rubbish. So I queried him about it and there was nothing more I could do from this end of the phone and he assured me that the accounts department was going to deal with it. He also assured me that i would have the money in my account within the week (how unusual of QS to make a promise) I remain pessimistic.

As one could have predicted, it is now 1 May 2009 and I have just got off the phone with QS and firstly he says that they have to wait until Sagittarius collects the taps from QS, inspects them for damage and refunds QS before I will see a penny. Now, I work in retail and know that this is not the way business works. I was dealing with QS, they are MY supplier. Sagittarius is not my supplier, I did not buy anything from them. How on God's good earth did they manage to get a business going. I'm sure the owner Saz Member or Zam Member is not oblivious to the way his company is run. I have asked to speak to him numerous times but he seems to always be busy and he has never, once, returned any on my calls.

They've had my taps for more than 5 weeks now, surely to God they would have been picked up by Sagittarius by now? QS should have inspected them for damage when they were delivered to them. They would have signed for them...accepting that the goods were in good order so the inspecting has already been done but where is my money???

I can see that they are hoping I will forget about the money...I have emailed this to Consumer Direct, Watchdog, Which?, The Office of Fair Trading and the Trading Standards Institute. Also I will be placing posts and reviews on every forum that mentions QS Supplies or bathroom supply companies.

Total money paid: 156.51gbp
Total promised refund: 136.86gbp

Total Money Received From QS Supplies: 0

Again people, heed my warning, do not buy from these people. If this is the way they try to run a business do YOU want to do business with them??? They may be competitive on price but they WILL let you down once they have your money.


UPDATE: July 13th 2009

Well I'm back again after months of to-ing and fro-ing with the QS Supplies people. I spoke to HUZ on Friday who, eventually after arguing about it, agreed to the final installment of our refund. We were supposed to get £136.86 and ended up with a £110 refund on the 14th May. I know £26.86 is a very small amount for the hassle but after all the messing around, stress and aggravation QS has given us I wasn't prepared to write it off.
Huz promised that the payment of £26.86 would be going through to our bank this week and he asked me to take off the negative reviews which, apparently, have been creating quite a stir and rightly so. Just because they have, finally, paid back what they should have months ago it doesn't change the treatment my partner and I received. Then he told me the story that Mo and James had been telling everyone, that it was nothing to do with them and that it was their supplier (Sagittarius) who didn't want to deal with us.
It's strange that because how would their supplier give a toss if we were returning 1 set of taps, it's only one set of taps?!? I'm pretty sure they failed to mention that it was the fact that their fork-lift driver damaged our original bath so they offered us a choice of 3-4 others as a replacement so we chose one and asked if all the fittings we had ordered originally would fit the new bath. They (Mo) told us they would and they didn't then the whole saga began purely because they never admitted their mistake.
I know this is a family run business and I'm sure the owner must be pretty annoyed about a review like this but they need to know how their staff are treating HIS customers and tarnishing HIS reputation. I know if I was the owner, family or not, I would have no hesitation getting in new staff.

Mo, if this has given you and James grief it's your own fault for being a lying, cocky chancer. You thought that I would just forget about the whole thing and let you get away with my refund. No chance! And NO ONE speaks to my partner the way you did and gets away with it. I can assure you that I will not be removing these posts because the public need to know the kind of service you give and the way they can expect to be treated.


I have now noticed on the chrome towel rail (QS 804) 700 x 1000 curved radiator and there is surface rust and the chrome is peeling off! This is shocking quality. I use a chroming company for other work and got the guy to come in and have a look at it. He comfirmed that it is very poor quality chrome. The process is that the bare metal is covered in a very thin layer of metal then another couple of layers of nickel then another few layers of chrome. I have a motorbike with chrome on it that sits outside in rain and shine and has no problems but this towel rail has been in for a few months and switched on, maybe twice and it's not only covered in rust but the chrome is flaking off. I called the company who manufacture it who just told me to take it up with QS Supplies. I know QS Supplies didn't make the rail but there are a few other people on this site complaining about hte same thing. I want a replacement towel rail of better quality at no cost (not even restocking/shipping/delivery/admin) and they can cover the fitting costs.


I would advise people in the same situation as me to write something similar as this (an account of the situation) and post it on a number of sites:


http://www.leicesterguide.co.uk/qs-supplies-pri-1262.html?reviews_id=133&oscsid=e3fd770ab76095f78e79d38ee0adfc2b


Twitter, blogger etc.


Don't bother with their forum as I posted there but the staff at QS Supplies are the moderators who edited the post I made to this one...


[http://forums.qssupplies.co.uk/showthread.php?t=25] (link: http://forums.qssupplies.co.uk/showthread.php?t=25)


I have contacted the company who supplied their forum software and they are looking into the conditions of usage. 


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[28/05/2009] jamie: i had the same experience. QS Supplies are cowboys. i will never shop with them again.


[26/07/2009] ADAM: DON'T NO WHY YOU RECEIVED SO MANY PROBLEMS MY SERVICE WAS FANTASTIC!!!


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[14/08/2009] Angela: I had much the same problem.
Purchased an item that was not as described on their website.In fact total rubbish.
Lots of phone calls back and forth(They put you on hold then cut you off after 20 mins)
BUYER BEWARE! Lots of stress before finally threatening to report them to Trading Standards(How this company is still allowed to trade is beyond belief)
I did receive a refund from a guy called Zam



[01/09/2009] Mike: Hi

My name is Mike i decide to contact you after reading your profile. Pls i need your urgent help soon
Email mikeprinceamah9@yahoo.com


[29/09/2009] lisa: mo is an ignorant boy and must be a relative of the owner. it is criminal the way this company do business. purchased a wonky shower tray and i cannot even be bothered to tell the story, what i will say is though, a disabled child would be without a shower if we hadn't had family to help with cost of a new tray from another supplier!!! Mo obviously gets up in the morning to go to work with the intention of winding people up telling lies and ripping them off. a horrible horrible hideous personality. STAY AWAY FROM QS!!!!!!! PAY THE EXTRA £20 FROM THE OTHER SUPPLIERS. THIS COMPANY CAUSE MAJOR STRESS


[01/10/2009] Rich: Mo Member's email address is memba786@googlemail.com
I don't know if this helps anyone who is trying to get their money back?
They are total conmen.
Stay away from QS Supplies!


[19/10/2009] Geraldine Neat: Rude and obnoxious. No goods ever arrived and no refund ever processed. Buy from these fraudsters at your peril!


[11/11/2009] Steve Eliott: I recently placed an order with QS SUPPLIES (with some trepidation after reading the reviews). I placed the order by phone and got them to confirm the items I required were in stock. I paid for next day delivery to ensure if there was a problem I knew about it sooner rather than later. Every thing arrived on time and in perfect order. (THANKS A LOT QS) It was exceptional quality and value for money. I have written this as I feel we only ever bother to write when something is wrong which is why this company is suffering such a poor rating. I am sure at their prices they supply thousands of customers successfully.

Thanks a Bunch you certainly made my bathroom !!!


[19/11/2009] MICK: YOU ARE A LITTLE BABY COMPLAINING ABOUT LITTLE THINGS. GROW UP YOUR ACTING LIKE A LITTLE KID.


[20/11/2009] Michael: I am still waiting...since July and now it,s nearly the end of November for QS SUPPLIES to ring me back regarding the shower enclosure they delivered, and I use the term shower enclosure lightly.( my two year old could have constructed someting better!)
I cannot believe that BBC Watchdog or Trading Standards are not aware of these FRAUDSTERS!
PLEASE PLEASE if you are even thinkiking of buying anything from these horrible people......don't!


[21/01/2010] LIFE: YOU NO WHAT ALL I CAN SAY IS FUKING MANZ IN THIS WORLD ARE TWATS H8 THIS LIFE U NO WAT I MEAN... FUKING BETTER 2 LIVE IN THE GETTOO.. THATS WAT ITS ALL ABOUT LIKE SHIT WAKE UP DO WAT U WANT.. U NO WAT I MEAN BRAAAAAAAAP M8 LIFE IS COMPLEX SHIT HAPPNSZ FORGET AND FORGIEV


[27/03/2010] Ian: I have not used the products yet but we have unwrapped and checked them and all seems to be in good order. Tha value for money and customer service was excellent and I will not hesitate to use this company and website again and I would certainly recommend them to friends.

Delivery was very quick and delivered hen we told it would be. Liked the fact that you follow up your orders.

Very impressed.


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